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Donna Florio's avatar

It is particularly ironic that Trump— the king of grift from foreign countries —should lay that mantle on the Supreme Court. Also his own MAGA movement is far smaller than most people realize.

PowerCorrupts's avatar

All governors should pass ballot initiatives that take the $175 billion dollars to be refunded from tariffs to give to the victims that were cut out of food assistance with a caveat that they join a class action suit against County tax assessors that granted tax free status to Christian nationalist organizations 🤔‼️🤯😱🕵️⚖️👍🎯

... Forcing Christian nationalist organizations to quickly go broke

Ann Sharon's avatar

The laws governing ballot initiatives vary from state to state. Our state only allows the legislature to put an initiative on the ballot — not the governor or voters. Regardless, states cannot give directives to the federal government.

Tax assessors assess. They do not make the laws determining who qualifies for tax free status.

So let’s save our energy to use it where it matters.

PowerCorrupts's avatar

How smart are donors to Christian nationalist organizations?

They might believe that a Democrat run IRS would make them pay back the tax breaks from their donations to the far right?

Don't subscribe unless you want to join the effort to sue the government as all 12-year-olds are taught checks and balances where the courts check the other branches. Our new Nader's Raiders finds many law school applicants excited to duplicate our successes suing government shrink quackery as 3 million Americans try to die annually, mostly children. Law school applicants duplicate our successes and spice up their applications by mentioning their successes on their law school applications. 😁😁😁😁

Ann Sharon's avatar

I see. You’re intentionally tossing emotionally appealing spaghetti at the wall to find students who’ll sign up to bring lawsuits — while questioning the smarts of your targets. Definitely a learning experience for students. Not certain it is a positive for Nader’s reputation or *smart* to make assumptions about your adversaries & their intelligence. Stephen Miller has a legal advocacy group to provide representation & advice to those groups. He’s not the only one out there. Retroactive penalties based on the government changing its policies or regulations is not a real thing. It’s a violation of due process. A group may think it is clever to mislead to intimidate, but at best their credibility will be trashed & at worst the tactic will be used against their own allies.

Jay Jay Eh's avatar

Pritzker is suing $8.6 billion fed refund on Trump’s illegal tariffs.

— another war on the American people.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/gov-pritzker-seeks-8-6-billion-tariff-refund-after-court-ruling/ar-AA1WNUck

Robyn Boyer's avatar

I'm not sure anyone or anything can stop Trump's thirst for power except the Grim Reaper. Just as I was ecstatic for Alysa Liu's incredible gold medal performance in Milan, I am ecstatic for the SCOTUS opinion. It's doubtful Trump has or will read the decision and all the gentle scolding by Gorsuch and the other five justices. He is a deeply evil and disturbed human being, wreaking havoc on the world and on Americans. The ICE war in Minneapolis continues to rage despite Homan's announcement that they were leaving for better hunting grounds. The Court has given so much power to Trump it will take a good many more cases and decisions to whittle it down. Unless the justices have been sleeping for the last 13 months, they surely must know that the regime is executing US citizens, running rough shod over our rights and our liberties. If they do--and I'm going to go out on a limb here--then I'm going to believe that they have the empathy and compassion necessary for challenging the monster. They are the ultimate guardians of the Constitution; they should act like it.

Denise Donaldson's avatar

SCOTUS has no enforcement powers. In practice, they can't whittle anything, because the Felon refuses to acknowledge their authority.

Jay Jay Eh's avatar

I don’t think the 3 who voted against it this time give a damn.

Plus they’re virtually ‘owned’ via past ‘favors’ & hope of future largesse.

— their consciences are thoroughly ‘scarred over’ & insensitive.

Sue Cohen's avatar

Maybe?

But with at least 3 100% corrupt Justices- Alito, Thomas, Kavanaugh along with true fascists like Gorsuch? it's an upward slop

John Roberts has allowed Roger B. Tanney to no longer be known as the worst CJ in US History

The only way to fix it?

In 1869 US population was 31M

Supreme Court expanded to 9 Justices (1 per each Federal District)

In 2025 US population is 350M & there are 13 Federal Districts

Don’t We the People deserve at least 13 SC Justices?

Especially as too many of them were installed by the Heritage Foundation

We must #ExpandTheCourt

JBR's avatar

Now is terrible time ro expand the court. Trump will appoint people who take orders from him.

Jude Johnson's avatar

No, not now, of course. When these Nazis are purged from power, yes.

Clym Yeobright's avatar

That certainly undermines your claim to ‘principle’, jude

Jude Johnson's avatar

What claim to 'principle', clym? Where did I make that statement?

We have 13 Federal Districts, not nine. I never said they had to be all Dems, clym. They need to JURISTS who support the rule of LAW. Period.

Sue Cohen's avatar

Pretty sure Clym is a troll.

Clym Yeobright's avatar

I have no experience apologizing for accusing someone of having principles. My bad!

Sue Cohen's avatar

What Jude said--Dems must retake both Congress & the WH

Jude Johnson's avatar

I guess ol' clym likes Nazis.

Clym Yeobright's avatar

“She turned me into a newt!”

Max West's avatar

But then what, when similar vacuous souls reoccupy the White House and both houses of Congress in 10 or 15 years? And they expand it to 21 or such? I don't think expansion is a good long-term, precedent-setting option to resolve this current crazy.

Marliss Desens's avatar

That is why staggered term limits are needed.

Sue Cohen's avatar

Marliss is correct. Lifetime appointments have become corruption on steroids

(See Thomas , Alito & Kavanaugh)

Max-We cannot have only 9 Justices representing 350 Million of US

The 13 Districts are overburdened as is

Clym Yeobright's avatar

The justices don’t ‘represent’ anyone, Sue

Paul Ritz's avatar

We, the American people, were left “holding the bag.” The people on the court are the best and brightest and didn’t see this happening with their unleashing of the beast.

Clym Yeobright's avatar

And what do you propose to happen when someone dies or resigns mid-term? Does the replacement get a full 18 or 16 or 12 year term or just whatever remains of the predecessor’s? You can see that method (a) would in a few years result in a hodge-podge of term terminations; one might expect Supreme Court terms to tend to align with - or against - presidential terms (as we expect Alito and Thomas to retire while trump is President), while under method (b) who would accept a short term when the prospect of a full term exists? See the case of the French presidency.

Marliss Desens's avatar

The current system, where someone in his or her forties can be appointed and potentially serve 40 years is a problem. Supreme Court justices, as Heather Cox Richardson has pointed out never used to stay in office as long as those of our time do. For one thing, they had to travel to visit their circuits, and travel was not so nifty in those days. The justices who were appointed also tended to be older than recent appointments. There is no magic number for how many justices; the Court has varied over its history. I think that staggered terms could work. An older person would likely be more willing to take a two-year term, because, hey, it's the Supreme Court. There have been only a couple of deaths in the last ten years of serving members. That used to give the appointments some randomness--until Mitch McConnell put his thumb on the scale after Scalia died, then hypocritically did the same when Ginsberg died in office.

Clym Yeobright's avatar

Clearly you’ve read The Nine; The Brethren; and Scorpions and have given the subject a great deal of thought, Marissa. It’s well you have come up with a solution you believe ‘could work’. Hat tip to you

Howardsp's avatar

Not right now. NO!

Sue Cohen's avatar

No one is saying now-The last thing we need to do is give Trump & his puppet masters another seat

Ginny K's avatar

They have no remorse. The difference here is that the billionaire class doesn't like the tariffs because they cost money. Where was the concern for reliance on established law when these men ripped bodily autonomy away from women? Or rules concerning the 4th amendment's command that a warrant based on probable cause signed by a judge is necessary before a search or seizure? No this court is fully corrupted and needs total reform.

Marshall Sikowitz's avatar

I agree with you 100%. This was a win for the multinationals as much as a loss for Trump’s authoritative instincts. When it comes to human and civil rights, I don’t expect this court to show any more fairness

or empathy than they’ve shown in the past.

Adrienne Kaga's avatar

They let the cat out of the bag with the presidential immunity that they themselves conjured up. Now they’re left holding the bag.

Joan Powell's avatar

They made this, they can repeal it. Why not?

Mema's avatar

They can reverse the damn Kingship they gave him. NOW!!

Harriet Pashman's avatar

We are wasting valuable time and increasing the dire consequences of Trump’s tyranny by waiting 3 years to rid us of the whole bunch of GOP lemmings . The results of the coming mid-terms will indicate if our Republic can continue without an armed rebellion by WE, the PEOPLE!

Nadine Roddy's avatar

"the currently quaint notion of separation of powers" -- hahaha! Steven, you surely know how to turn a phrase!

If the Supremes can't stop him, they can surely make his life more difficult. Come to think of it, they might make him so enraged that he blows a gasket.

AVee. (Alexia)'s avatar

I agree Nadine. I had marked that description for comment as well.

☺️. It’s helpful to have some levity interspersed with the seriousness of our situation- which feels like 20 years long.

Harriet Pashman's avatar

Then we will be left with the “B” team….the ones writing all Trump’s edicts. …the frying pan/fire groupees.

Ellen Deschatres's avatar

Oh, man…I wish I had the answer to your questions, but I fear that attempting to dive into Trump’s very sick mind would be futile. However, the pattern of his response to this ruling suggests that we can predict the rage that is always unleashed when his power is questioned or thwarted. He has been jilted by 6 of his former lovers who are still seated on the bench of the Supreme Court…and he is hurt and infuriated. How dare they question his superiority, his super-human knowledge and power? How DARE they?

At the heart of all of his thrashing and threats is just such an assumption…that he is all-knowing and all-powerful. This predictable pattern of emotional wailing and knashing of teeth should prepare us for what is coming in the midterm elections. If he does not win, he will never, ever accept being a loser…not ever, not even a little bit. This is less about his response to present circumstances than a future prediction of what is to come.

We have been warned.

Susan Fernbach's avatar

Also that he is an emotional two-year-old

Harriet Pashman's avatar

WE, the PEOPLE, always have the power to “jilt” an unlovable…..our vote or our Rebellion…

Jude Johnson's avatar

No, they cannot stop the monster they unleashed, and three of them plainly don't want to. You can thank Moscow Mitch McTurtleFace for 1) blocking Garland's nomination to the Court (can you imagine how long decisions would take to be released then? But at the same time, any other AG would have brought the Felon to trial by 2023), and 2) urging his spineless colleagues not to convict on impeachment after Jan. 6.

The Court WILL NOT save this country. ONLY WE CAN. Keep protesting peacefully in ever larger numbers, document ICEhole activity, keep working to make sure your local elections are free from ICEholes--support your state AG if they are suing the regime-- and VOTE, dammit. Don't sit back and capitulate in advance. I don't give a rat's butt that he has the codes or the Pentagon behind him--I refuse to live in fear or despair.

Don't give up--don't go silent--and remember this nation was founded on raucous dissent and persistence.

Seriously……'s avatar

How could they not have known what they were unleashing back in 2024?? I suspect Gorsuch and a couple of the others underestimated the man’s evil and selfish tendencies and intentions. But again, I ask: How could **anyone** holding such an office as Justice in the SCOTUS (and elsewhere) NOT know, or at minimum be able to anticipate what was going to happen? Also, they were all in on Project 2025, so there’s that. They/he knew. They just (maybe) didn’t understand the full extent of their actions. And we are paying the price. I’m glad he ruled in this manner, but history will remember the SCOTUS 6 who are responsible for a good deal of the out of control madness of this Republican Regime.

Paula B.'s avatar

I would have agreed with this take in the past, but now I think those men and possibly Barrett are so emotionally stunted that they don't understand people at all. Nor do they understand the consequences of their actions. They and the oligarchs operate in a rarefied atmosphere that's pretty much impenetrable. That's true of the entire Epstein class, BTW. It's unfathomable to me but it seems to be true.

Seriously……'s avatar

Anyone who actually **listens** to what Trump says and has half a brain, even someone living in rarified circles, has to recognize the category of human being he is. Even if they are simply seeing themselves . It’s survival of the fittest (or most horrific) , even or maybe especially amongst that “class” of people.

Ursula Roma's avatar

They have an obligation to stop him. It is their duty, regardless of the damage done. They are a year behind, and if I’m not mistaken, that is a big part of the reason they even exist.

TJ's avatar

To answer your question - “Can the Supreme Court stop the monster they unleashed?”

Would venture that they are behind the eight ball for that to occur. They gave him immunity and with that he ran the table to select others within his regime to do the same. We now have an AG for the U.S. at the DoJ that no longer represents the people but one man. The same at the DoD or otherwise in his mind who renamed it the Dept. of War. Which everytime I write that should give every American pause. The FBI no longer serves the American people but again one man or even now the head of the FBI who dispatches planes for his girlfriend or to take a day trip to Italy and watch the USA men’s hockey team in the Olympics in Milan Italy. The head of our National Security Agency being in Fulton Ga. lurking behind corners on a cellphone who we can presume was talking to one man about confiscating electoral votes from the 2020 election to carry on his “big lie”. The head of the DHS that even her underlings as Homan who believe that they are also above the law by pretending that they are the manufacturers of said laws by incarcerating 5 year olds in a concentration camp in Dilley Texas.

SCOTUS didn’t just allow and birth one Frankenstein by giving immunity to him they unleashed a series of other individuals to carry that same narrative in every institution of our democratic-republic.

So to have SCOTUS claw back to remain true to our Constitution will be a tall order. Because they would have to run the table of what they’ve allowed to occur with that one decision..

Steven Beschloss's avatar

Right you are about unleashing a team of lawless enablers, TJ. Thx.

Harriet Pashman's avatar

There must be age and term limits to all three branches of Govt. Extended time in any office , as well as in life, adds “pay back” obligations that often conflict with acuity of decision making.

Robert Dale's avatar

Too little too late

KBinPNW's avatar

Steven, in answer to your question, in short, no. They cannot stop him. The Supreme Court has no enforcement mechanism. They can, and have, ruled against him. But they are powerless when he immediately ignores their rulings and breaks the law. Only we, the people, can stop the monster that a minority of us have unleashed on the world.

Clym Yeobright's avatar

You make no sense. The courts can, for instance, enjoin the collectors of the ports from refusing to release shipments held only for non-payment of duties. You sound like Stephen Miller: might is the only justifier. I respectfully dissent.

KBinPNW's avatar

With all due respect, we’ve seen the courts at every level, up to and including the Supreme Court, rule against his illegal and unconstitutional actions. And none of them have stopped him or held him to any standard of punishment. How that causes you to invoke Stephen Miller is inscrutable, to say the least.

Al Bellenchia's avatar

I won’t be fooled again.

“The wicked become even worse when they are tolerated.” - Tolstoy

Harriet Pashman's avatar

Twice a fool leaves one doubly responsible for the results.

Sam's avatar

Did Dr. Frankenstein stop his? Or did the monster set in motion a series of events leading to its own demise?

Paula B.'s avatar

At least the monster had some redeeming qualities.

Sam's avatar

Though one similarity of both, their criminal brains, differed in that Frank's was implanted as opposed to nurtured.

Clym Yeobright's avatar

Okay, I give up. Who can answer this incisive question?

Quoting Yul Brynner: Is a puzzlement!