It is more hopeful now that other countries are rejecting him. Their pretense helped him. This brings him closer to having to face up to the pariah he is. Watch him try to arrange another dinner at the palace now.
Mary and Steven: So appreciate the long discussion 💙🇺🇸💙
Steven
Thank you for refocusing our attention on Marc Carney.
I too am both grateful and stirred by his pointedness toward the reality we face.
I hope it’s ok to repeat some of the quotes you already used previously, or may have used, if memory serves☺️plus some I located.
Strong, memorable lines from his address:
• “We’re in a rupture, not a transition.” — signaling that the post-Cold War rules-based international order has fundamentally broken down. 
• “You cannot ‘live within the lie’ of mutual benefit through integration when integration becomes the source of your subordination.” — invoking the idea that old assumptions about global cooperation no longer hold. 
• “We know the old order is not coming back. We shouldn’t mourn it. Nostalgia is not a strategy.” — a direct challenge to clinging to outdated global frameworks. 
• “If we’re not at the table, we’re on the menu.” — a vivid call for middle powers to assert themselves rather than be acted upon by great powers. 
• “The strong can do what they can, and the weak must suffer what they must.” — used to describe the emerging realist geopolitical landscape. 
• “When the rules no longer protect you, you must protect yourself.” — highlighting the need for strategic autonomy. 
• “There is a strong tendency for countries to go along to get along… to hope that compliance will buy safety. It won’t.” — urging nations not to acquiesce to coercive power. 
I too, as Mary and you indicated, have been distraught over the subtle and overt appeasement toward the creature in our White House from other leaders and factions.
Carney’s speech as you also addressed, emphasized that middle powers, like Canada and others outside the dominant blocs,
must stop pretending the old global system still works —
and instead build new alliances, resilience, autonomy, and cooperative structures responsive to today’s realities.
"Change depends on comprehending, confronting and naming reality as a necessary precondition for a powerful opposition that can successfully fight back....That includes the necessity of building solidarity, recognizing collective power and finding hope in community." Excellent comment. Mark Carney represents a leader "comprehending, confronting and naming reality." The prior method of the Atlantic alliance dealing with toddler malignant narcissist Trump involved sucking up, praising, giving him shiny objects to assuage his fragile ego. Carney acknowledged this method is no longer working and must be altered to deal with a mob boss's extortive behavior. I only wish the US corporate overlords would learn this lesson. I just don't know how long it would take citizens to find hope in community. On my block I couldn't guarantee how many of my neighbors would stand up to protest or strike.
Have you seen this item: In October 2024, researchers at the Center for Ethics and the Rule of Law (CERL) at the University of Pennsylvania conducted an experiment in which a president ordered a widely condemned federal law enforcement operation in the city of brotherly love.
To carry out the operation, the simulated president tried to federalize the Pennsylvania national guard, which the governor resisted. National guard troops who sided with the state followed suit, prompting the fictional president to order acting US military troops to march on Philly.
According to CERL director Claire Finkelstein’s breakdown of the simulation, newly published in the Guardian, the experiment culminated in a “violent confrontation” between state and federal forces in a major US metropolis.
It is more hopeful now that other countries are rejecting him. Their pretense helped him. This brings him closer to having to face up to the pariah he is. Watch him try to arrange another dinner at the palace now.
Mary and Steven: So appreciate the long discussion 💙🇺🇸💙
Steven
Thank you for refocusing our attention on Marc Carney.
I too am both grateful and stirred by his pointedness toward the reality we face.
I hope it’s ok to repeat some of the quotes you already used previously, or may have used, if memory serves☺️plus some I located.
Strong, memorable lines from his address:
• “We’re in a rupture, not a transition.” — signaling that the post-Cold War rules-based international order has fundamentally broken down. 
• “You cannot ‘live within the lie’ of mutual benefit through integration when integration becomes the source of your subordination.” — invoking the idea that old assumptions about global cooperation no longer hold. 
• “We know the old order is not coming back. We shouldn’t mourn it. Nostalgia is not a strategy.” — a direct challenge to clinging to outdated global frameworks. 
• “If we’re not at the table, we’re on the menu.” — a vivid call for middle powers to assert themselves rather than be acted upon by great powers. 
• “The strong can do what they can, and the weak must suffer what they must.” — used to describe the emerging realist geopolitical landscape. 
• “When the rules no longer protect you, you must protect yourself.” — highlighting the need for strategic autonomy. 
• “There is a strong tendency for countries to go along to get along… to hope that compliance will buy safety. It won’t.” — urging nations not to acquiesce to coercive power. 
I too, as Mary and you indicated, have been distraught over the subtle and overt appeasement toward the creature in our White House from other leaders and factions.
Carney’s speech as you also addressed, emphasized that middle powers, like Canada and others outside the dominant blocs,
must stop pretending the old global system still works —
and instead build new alliances, resilience, autonomy, and cooperative structures responsive to today’s realities.
(Not restoration but renewal)
Thank you for your community: please rest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btqHDhO4h10
Light Love Truth Hope Peace
"Change depends on comprehending, confronting and naming reality as a necessary precondition for a powerful opposition that can successfully fight back....That includes the necessity of building solidarity, recognizing collective power and finding hope in community." Excellent comment. Mark Carney represents a leader "comprehending, confronting and naming reality." The prior method of the Atlantic alliance dealing with toddler malignant narcissist Trump involved sucking up, praising, giving him shiny objects to assuage his fragile ego. Carney acknowledged this method is no longer working and must be altered to deal with a mob boss's extortive behavior. I only wish the US corporate overlords would learn this lesson. I just don't know how long it would take citizens to find hope in community. On my block I couldn't guarantee how many of my neighbors would stand up to protest or strike.
Have you seen this item: In October 2024, researchers at the Center for Ethics and the Rule of Law (CERL) at the University of Pennsylvania conducted an experiment in which a president ordered a widely condemned federal law enforcement operation in the city of brotherly love.
To carry out the operation, the simulated president tried to federalize the Pennsylvania national guard, which the governor resisted. National guard troops who sided with the state followed suit, prompting the fictional president to order acting US military troops to march on Philly.
According to CERL director Claire Finkelstein’s breakdown of the simulation, newly published in the Guardian, the experiment culminated in a “violent confrontation” between state and federal forces in a major US metropolis.