Steven, see what Lev said about this. It's wonderful that the hostages were released. That being said, I refuse to give the orange thing any credit. I'm realistic. They're released...but the peace won't last.
Most importantly? What kind of trust funds are being set up for the survivors? The lack of nutrition during WW2 is why Audrey Hepburn was so skinny. So what kind of long-term issues (GI), speech-language therapy, OT, PT, psych, will the survivors and their families have? People need to set up trust funds for the survivors and their families. It won't just impact the survivors themselves. It's the new members of the family. The divorces. The job losses. Etc. (See Dr. Nadine Burke Harris' book.)
I don’t know about trust funds, but the returned Israeli hostages will receive extensive therapy in special settings, individualized medical review & care, and a careful reintroduction to a nutritional diet.
Palestinian detainees being returned. One man had been imprisoned for 18 years and was so gaunt after losing over 100 lbs his family did not recognize him. The West Bank was warned not to celebrate. At least some who did were met with tear gas.
(I have Dr. Burke Harris’ book. She’s a gem. I first heard of her in the James Redford documentary, Resilience when she was describing her discovery of ACEs as a physician.
Lev basically said it's performance BS. Note netanyahu hasn't declared the war over. So, pardon the guarded optimism. Thrilled for those released? Yes. Worried about the bigger picture.
There are reports that Hamas is busy killing those who might lead an opposition group. It’s not reasonable to believe Hamas will turn in all their weapons. Netanyahu as you say has given no indication he wants ‘peace’. A cease fire with an exchange of hostages & prisoners is not a a peace deal. (Some of the prisoners are suspected to be a class of hostages. Palestinians taken to boost the number of prisoners for any negotiations.)
DJT is saying it is about rebuilding Gaza. Not governance or any of the sticky issues. It seems he is again turning his attention to Ukraine. Maybe?
I found the entire performance pukeable. He bragged on the Egyptian leader for not having crime, followed by stuff like “They don’t play games like we do in the United States, with governors that have no idea what they’re doing, but they don’t have crime. I asked about crime, and they almost don’t even know what I’m talking about.”
— Almost don’t even know? (900 protestors were massacred by Egypt security forces in 2013. Maybe he admires that too.)
While speaking at the Knesset, he told the President of the Knesset he should pardon Netanyahu. In the course of his many comments at both stops he made gratuitous disparaging comments about Hillary, Obama & Biden. It was sort of like he was looking in the mirror basking in the limelight & singing “how great thou art.”
Yes, it's a wonderful day in the Middle East when a cease fire has gone into effect allowing for the remaining Israeli hostages to be released into the loving arms of their families while aid is finally flowing to the surviving inhabitants of Gaza who have had to endure hell on earth for over two years.
However, I must confess to being sickened by the sight of some of the richest, most corrupt leaders on earth - Trump prime among them - falling over each other to congratulate themselves. Am I a cynic in wondering what deals have been made between the lot of them to exploit the situation for their own financial benefit? How is Gaza to be rebuilt? Which of these dictators are poised to reap the rewards?
Netanyahu and the Israeli Nationalist movement are well on their way to expelling the Palestinians. (Where will they go? That's not the INM's problem.) Gaza is for the most part unlivable. And the so-called "Peace Agreement" was agreed to by the IN's to 1) get the few remaining hostages back, and 2) provide a cover for what the Expulsionists are doing in the West Bank. The Palestinians there are now confined to three non-contiguous segments of land, which could never form the basis for a Palestinian State even if the IN's were to allow one to exist (to say nothing of the completely isolated Gaza strip, made that way by the original 1947 UN Partition Plan).
The cognitive dissonance is almost overwhelming. As Steven Jonas said,
Palestine is unlivable. I was shocked to see all of the people pouring into Palestine on the news.There’s nothing there but rubble. On another note, if Homi is a cynic, so so am I. Nothing is as it seems to be when DT is involved. There have to be under-the-table deals involved. Above all, it’s not over
yet. There are still a lot of things to be worked out, but I am very happy the
Unusual for me, I managed to watch this unfold in near-real time. Then I started paying attention to the reactions across the world- and found as well some background that gives some shading to this story. What happened here is based on work that Biden & others set in place but couldn't get movement on. Many (probably most) believe that Trump stumbled into this during his peacemaker fantasies, and Netenyahu latched onto as a way to maneuver out of a situation that has become increasingly uncomfortable for him as he is under increasing pressure within Israel to resign. Trump didn't so much broker this as he created the opening Netenyahu needed. The people who applauded him were only his own far-right backers: the rest of his "coalition" were subdued.
The people who broke down and analyzed the "agreement" seem to be in agreement that this represents only step one if the process: return of the remaining hostages, and the release of Palestinian prisoners, some of whom have been imprisoned by Israel for over 2 decades. There are many unanswered questions, such as who will rule Gaza, and how will they rebuild the extensive damage Israel did. How will Palestinians rebuild their society after so many thousands of deaths?
So far, it is mostly America asking the questions about the damage Trump is doing here in America. But that is natural. Because the other question being asked world-wide is what happens when Trump loses interest, or has another break with reality, or gets mad at one of the nations involved and decides to use his favorite tool: tariffs? That question will lead to what he doing here, and what that portends for the rest of the world. Because an unstable America (as most nations in the world have already noted) puts the rest of the world at risk. Including the process that could lead to peace in the middle east.
Yes, Bibi has a lot of mixed motives. We tend to forget an Israeli nationalist assassinated Prime Minister Rabin for his work on the Oslo Accords. Givr who is National Security minister now was a young man at the time. He had made the news 2 weeks before bragging as he held the hood ornament from Rabin’s car. “Just like we got to this emblem," he said, "we could get to Rabin." Just like we got to this emblem," he said, "we could get to Rabin." It was 7 months later Netanyahu became Prime Minister.
I believe (and a lot of smart people say 😊) trump stumbled into leverage on Netanyahu after the 2 bombings of Doha. The US has a major military base near Doha. The 1st time the was very very short notice. 2nd time bombs were already falling. Embarrassing for DJT, especially because it was known Bibi was saying he had DJT under control. This has to be one of the most telling images from a WH. Donnie holding the base of a phone as Netanyahu holds the receiver & reads an apology to Qatar for the 2nd bombing.
The 2nd strike easily could have been a disaster. That is without considering the targets were Hamas negotiators which killed family members instead - while Donnie pursued a Nobel Prize (Bibi supposedly nominated him like others who wanted his favor). Doha became a sort of ‘hands off’ site for talks and negotiations at the behest of the US. To prop up a political rival to Fatah in the West Bank, Bibi encouraged & in 2020 insisted Qatar continue sending $$ to Hamas.
Follow the money. Jared has come out of this more wealthy than ever before. Why is he even involved to begin with. Is he a diplomat? No, he's a grifter as all of the Trump clan are.
I am not sure we as a nation can wait until the elections still a year away. There needs to be a coup, led by our professional military who I believe still honors our Constitution and understands better than any other group in our country what the rule of law means. It doesn't need to be a bloody coup, just a takeover and an insistence on democracy and the rule of law.
Steven, I am with you. There will never be peace in the Middle East and what Trump has done was in the Biden plan anyway. He always seems to think that his ideas are genuinely his but we know they’re not. He grifts these too. Hamas will just grow and grow, along with Hezbollah, because now they think their anger is justified. The Palestinians deserve so much more than these tyrants.
Thanks you Steven ; Yes the return of the hostages is wonderful after seven hundred or so days in captivity. A little flicker of light in the darkness. I suppose that outrage lashed out on Neyanyahu a few days ago by Trump got Neyanyahu to bend a little and stop killing the Palestinians . Trump Screamed at Netanyahu, Sided With Hamas in Furious Phone Call Over Gaza Starvation Crisis? I'm sure he will come up with some alibi to keep the cleansing going. He should be faulting the Hamas any day now.
What a wonderful thing that this is! Yet, the timing of ceasefire and exchange of prisoners seems oddly close to the awarding of the Nobel Peace Prize. He could have pushed for this many times over the past months and yet it happens now. Is this his effort to be in the running for next year's prize? Food for thought. In spite of my cynicism where Trump is concerned, I am so happy for the families that have been reunited.
Your words are exactly appropriate:…
“cognitive dissonance…”
I watched him peacock feather around at the podium repeating and extolling his glee at being instrumental in the cease fire and return of hostages..
and knew I had to give him credit for this welcome achievement-
while dancing on the background screen in my mind is the abject cruelty of his bands of thugs abducting and abusing humans here,
his adamant refusal to release the Epstein Files and
his stream of Hitler-esque actions of stomping on our Freedoms while calling those of us peacefully advocating for Just Laws and safe elections
— members of Hamas!
Appreciate you taking the time….
💙🇺🇸💙
Steven, see what Lev said about this. It's wonderful that the hostages were released. That being said, I refuse to give the orange thing any credit. I'm realistic. They're released...but the peace won't last.
Most importantly? What kind of trust funds are being set up for the survivors? The lack of nutrition during WW2 is why Audrey Hepburn was so skinny. So what kind of long-term issues (GI), speech-language therapy, OT, PT, psych, will the survivors and their families have? People need to set up trust funds for the survivors and their families. It won't just impact the survivors themselves. It's the new members of the family. The divorces. The job losses. Etc. (See Dr. Nadine Burke Harris' book.)
I don’t know about trust funds, but the returned Israeli hostages will receive extensive therapy in special settings, individualized medical review & care, and a careful reintroduction to a nutritional diet.
Palestinian detainees being returned. One man had been imprisoned for 18 years and was so gaunt after losing over 100 lbs his family did not recognize him. The West Bank was warned not to celebrate. At least some who did were met with tear gas.
(I have Dr. Burke Harris’ book. She’s a gem. I first heard of her in the James Redford documentary, Resilience when she was describing her discovery of ACEs as a physician.
https://kpjrfilms.co/resilience/)
Lev basically said it's performance BS. Note netanyahu hasn't declared the war over. So, pardon the guarded optimism. Thrilled for those released? Yes. Worried about the bigger picture.
There are reports that Hamas is busy killing those who might lead an opposition group. It’s not reasonable to believe Hamas will turn in all their weapons. Netanyahu as you say has given no indication he wants ‘peace’. A cease fire with an exchange of hostages & prisoners is not a a peace deal. (Some of the prisoners are suspected to be a class of hostages. Palestinians taken to boost the number of prisoners for any negotiations.)
DJT is saying it is about rebuilding Gaza. Not governance or any of the sticky issues. It seems he is again turning his attention to Ukraine. Maybe?
I found the entire performance pukeable. He bragged on the Egyptian leader for not having crime, followed by stuff like “They don’t play games like we do in the United States, with governors that have no idea what they’re doing, but they don’t have crime. I asked about crime, and they almost don’t even know what I’m talking about.”
— Almost don’t even know? (900 protestors were massacred by Egypt security forces in 2013. Maybe he admires that too.)
While speaking at the Knesset, he told the President of the Knesset he should pardon Netanyahu. In the course of his many comments at both stops he made gratuitous disparaging comments about Hillary, Obama & Biden. It was sort of like he was looking in the mirror basking in the limelight & singing “how great thou art.”
Yes, it's a wonderful day in the Middle East when a cease fire has gone into effect allowing for the remaining Israeli hostages to be released into the loving arms of their families while aid is finally flowing to the surviving inhabitants of Gaza who have had to endure hell on earth for over two years.
However, I must confess to being sickened by the sight of some of the richest, most corrupt leaders on earth - Trump prime among them - falling over each other to congratulate themselves. Am I a cynic in wondering what deals have been made between the lot of them to exploit the situation for their own financial benefit? How is Gaza to be rebuilt? Which of these dictators are poised to reap the rewards?
Netanyahu and the Israeli Nationalist movement are well on their way to expelling the Palestinians. (Where will they go? That's not the INM's problem.) Gaza is for the most part unlivable. And the so-called "Peace Agreement" was agreed to by the IN's to 1) get the few remaining hostages back, and 2) provide a cover for what the Expulsionists are doing in the West Bank. The Palestinians there are now confined to three non-contiguous segments of land, which could never form the basis for a Palestinian State even if the IN's were to allow one to exist (to say nothing of the completely isolated Gaza strip, made that way by the original 1947 UN Partition Plan).
The cognitive dissonance is almost overwhelming. As Steven Jonas said,
Palestine is unlivable. I was shocked to see all of the people pouring into Palestine on the news.There’s nothing there but rubble. On another note, if Homi is a cynic, so so am I. Nothing is as it seems to be when DT is involved. There have to be under-the-table deals involved. Above all, it’s not over
yet. There are still a lot of things to be worked out, but I am very happy the
hostages were released.
Thank you. I needed that. So eloquently stated. Courage. Together.
Unusual for me, I managed to watch this unfold in near-real time. Then I started paying attention to the reactions across the world- and found as well some background that gives some shading to this story. What happened here is based on work that Biden & others set in place but couldn't get movement on. Many (probably most) believe that Trump stumbled into this during his peacemaker fantasies, and Netenyahu latched onto as a way to maneuver out of a situation that has become increasingly uncomfortable for him as he is under increasing pressure within Israel to resign. Trump didn't so much broker this as he created the opening Netenyahu needed. The people who applauded him were only his own far-right backers: the rest of his "coalition" were subdued.
The people who broke down and analyzed the "agreement" seem to be in agreement that this represents only step one if the process: return of the remaining hostages, and the release of Palestinian prisoners, some of whom have been imprisoned by Israel for over 2 decades. There are many unanswered questions, such as who will rule Gaza, and how will they rebuild the extensive damage Israel did. How will Palestinians rebuild their society after so many thousands of deaths?
So far, it is mostly America asking the questions about the damage Trump is doing here in America. But that is natural. Because the other question being asked world-wide is what happens when Trump loses interest, or has another break with reality, or gets mad at one of the nations involved and decides to use his favorite tool: tariffs? That question will lead to what he doing here, and what that portends for the rest of the world. Because an unstable America (as most nations in the world have already noted) puts the rest of the world at risk. Including the process that could lead to peace in the middle east.
Yes, Bibi has a lot of mixed motives. We tend to forget an Israeli nationalist assassinated Prime Minister Rabin for his work on the Oslo Accords. Givr who is National Security minister now was a young man at the time. He had made the news 2 weeks before bragging as he held the hood ornament from Rabin’s car. “Just like we got to this emblem," he said, "we could get to Rabin." Just like we got to this emblem," he said, "we could get to Rabin." It was 7 months later Netanyahu became Prime Minister.
I believe (and a lot of smart people say 😊) trump stumbled into leverage on Netanyahu after the 2 bombings of Doha. The US has a major military base near Doha. The 1st time the was very very short notice. 2nd time bombs were already falling. Embarrassing for DJT, especially because it was known Bibi was saying he had DJT under control. This has to be one of the most telling images from a WH. Donnie holding the base of a phone as Netanyahu holds the receiver & reads an apology to Qatar for the 2nd bombing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9F9EyOw6eU
The 2nd strike easily could have been a disaster. That is without considering the targets were Hamas negotiators which killed family members instead - while Donnie pursued a Nobel Prize (Bibi supposedly nominated him like others who wanted his favor). Doha became a sort of ‘hands off’ site for talks and negotiations at the behest of the US. To prop up a political rival to Fatah in the West Bank, Bibi encouraged & in 2020 insisted Qatar continue sending $$ to Hamas.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/netanyahu-israel-gaza-hamas-1.7010035
Follow the money. Jared has come out of this more wealthy than ever before. Why is he even involved to begin with. Is he a diplomat? No, he's a grifter as all of the Trump clan are.
I am not sure we as a nation can wait until the elections still a year away. There needs to be a coup, led by our professional military who I believe still honors our Constitution and understands better than any other group in our country what the rule of law means. It doesn't need to be a bloody coup, just a takeover and an insistence on democracy and the rule of law.
Steven, I am with you. There will never be peace in the Middle East and what Trump has done was in the Biden plan anyway. He always seems to think that his ideas are genuinely his but we know they’re not. He grifts these too. Hamas will just grow and grow, along with Hezbollah, because now they think their anger is justified. The Palestinians deserve so much more than these tyrants.
Bibi and Donald made a devil's pact to delay a peace agreement until after the 2024 presidential election.
Thanks you Steven ; Yes the return of the hostages is wonderful after seven hundred or so days in captivity. A little flicker of light in the darkness. I suppose that outrage lashed out on Neyanyahu a few days ago by Trump got Neyanyahu to bend a little and stop killing the Palestinians . Trump Screamed at Netanyahu, Sided With Hamas in Furious Phone Call Over Gaza Starvation Crisis? I'm sure he will come up with some alibi to keep the cleansing going. He should be faulting the Hamas any day now.
What a wonderful thing that this is! Yet, the timing of ceasefire and exchange of prisoners seems oddly close to the awarding of the Nobel Peace Prize. He could have pushed for this many times over the past months and yet it happens now. Is this his effort to be in the running for next year's prize? Food for thought. In spite of my cynicism where Trump is concerned, I am so happy for the families that have been reunited.
Thanks for the compliment, Mr. Beschloss, (the other) Dr. J.
Where is this awesome video from? (I might have missed it)