I’m dismayed that no one in Congress pushed for Putin’s arrest while he was on American soil. What a total sham this administration is. Truly terrifying!
Putin has something on Trump that he is terrified of becoming public. My guess is he shared it with Trump while in the Beast. Then later, watching the faces on his team as they exited the private meeting said it all. This was all a show, and Putin owns Trump, who did his best to make "Russia great again". It was vile, and unAmerican for 249 years.
Trump sold his soul decades ago to Russia now he is just paying his yearly dues and America will suffer. We have a cancer in our govt and it’s called Trump and GOP. Both need to be cut out
Yes, we've seen their propaganda play book before. My guess is all Putin did was show Trump a picture they have on their short ride in the beast. No translation needed, just a cold empty stare and Trump crumbled. No one knows, but just thinking of the possibility was helpful.
Trump's earliest known trip to Russia was in the 1980s. I believe he was recruited at that time as an American business/culture asset for the KGB and/or FSB. Maybe Putin was his handler - so, yes, there is kompromat on Trump. But he is still a useful tool for Putin, so he won't be releasing it anytime soon.
Intelligence assets are handled by staff in the agency, in this case either FSB or, more likely a KGB “America” desk officer. In some circumstances, officers in the field can provide that role for special cases, as I believe Trump must be considering his alleged wealth, neediness, and access to other rich Americans.
The U.S. and Russia aren't signatories to the International Criminal Court, which is why Putin could come to Alaska without fearing arrest. Any member of Congress who "pushed for Putin's arrest" would have been either grandstanding or showing their ignorance about what authority ICC warrants have in countries that don't acknowledge them. (Corrected: First version got the ICC and the ICJ [International Court of Justice] confused. Still trying to figure out the relationship between the two. <g>)
The whole thing makes us look weak. It was horrifying and disgusting.
The only reason Putin "has cards" is because Trump is showing him his hand and letting Putin win the game
A hand it seems like Trump wants Putin to put a "ring on"
Man crush for sure to the point of groveling and putting out the red carpet for a war criminal who has been murdering civilians and violently invaded its neighbor
Do violent dictators turn Trump on?
Remember Kim's "love letters?"
The truth is that Russia (not just Ukraine) is in dire straights from a lengthy war and all it would take would be for Trump to show some real backbone along side our NATO allies for Russia to have a whole different posture.
That is it.
I even bet if Ukraine were to actually join, Russia would find an excuse to bail.
It is the US along side our allies who "would" have all the cards - no one else.
But that would require Trump gaining a spine and not selling us down the river to make it seem like he got some sort of deal.
I guess even a superpower like the USA is only as strong as its weakest link and ours is POTUS
And just so it is clear, they should send old women like me to war - us old grannies are a lot tougher and fiercer than the likes of Hegseth or Trump with their fake bravado.
I have lived a good life and I am willing to put it on the line for future generations, all these blobs care about is $ and the GOP in congress can't even bother to risk their jobs with a vote to oppose Trump and yet they have the power to send "others" to war - What spineless cowards!
Gaza Riveria? Seriously? Are the kids going to make sand castles out of bones and see if they can hear the ocean in a skull they find on the shore? It would be like if they said they were going to turn Auschwitz into a ritzy hotel.
How can people not be sickened and repulsed by it all is beyond me.
Trump was not there as just the POTUS, he was there for Trump, and only Trump. His time as president is all about how he can enrich himself off the presidency. It was not about peace at all. No wonder the Ukrainian president was not invited.
Thanks. It came from a true place of rage and I'm not ashamed to be beyond furious about what is happening. I can't believe some can suppress it or do not realize they are complicit when they choose to do that. There is no "toning this down" no way to gloss it over with more diplomatically chosen words. Disgusting is what it is.
I remember when I first learned about the Holocaust. I went to my dear, sweet mother, and told her how sad and scared it made me. I finally asked her, "Why didn't y'all do something?"
Her answer was genuinely surprised and slightly amused: "What were WE going to do?" I was perplexed, but I didn't know an answer.
I still don't know the answer. But it does seem like we have a little more influence than my mother and her peers had. 🤔 Maybe.
I'm doing postcards, calls, signing petitions, attending protests, promoting Abigail Spanberger and other Dems in VA. Giving money to the ACLU and Amnesty International. It all feels impotent. But what else do we have? Please advise.
As Joyce and Ruth both seem to say, simply do whatever you can and what you are best capable of. I think they are better at advising than me and have leadership skills. Sounds like that is what you are already doing. It opens the doors for others, as well, when they see others doing what they can.
It was all about giving Putin air time on the world stage. Helping a brother dictator out with some publicity. Nothing more. Trump is denigrating our country in the world's eyes. We're now the trailer trash of the planet. We have fallen so far, so fast, under this administration.
Of course he did. Again. The felon couldn't 'deal' a deck of cards.
The photo of these two laughing makes me ill.
Both are incredibly cruel and corrupt, and are responsible for the deaths and suffering of millions of people. They should both be in prison for their treachery and crimes against humanity.
Yes, they both are all those things. The glaring difference is that Putin is a former KGB operative, cunning, well informed, manipulative, wily. Our "president?" Shallow, greedy, obsequious, arrogant, ignorant, venal, uninformed, egotistical, extremely susceptible to flattery, and easily manipulated. WHAT COULD GO WRONG FOR US?
You forgot HOE!!! Oh…that’s short for “Head of Extortion!” Hey, you can’t fault a guy for supplementing his income…especially in these tough times! Plus…it’s far more profitable than peddling worthless trinkets!
They say a question should not be answered with a question. I will go with a question anyway. Hasn't Trump been selling out to Russia/Putin for years? Trump is anti-American, anti-constitutionalist and a fraud this entire time. When I served in USAF Intel decades ago, Russia was the enemy. That has not changed. What has changed is that we now have traitors seated in the highest offices of power. That applies to all three branches of "our" government: Executive, Legislative and Judicial.
To the American right, Russia ceased to be an enemy when it ceased being a Communist nation. They seem to have no trouble with Putin re-establishing the Soviet Union so long as it’s not Communist.
Interesting perspective. The right, often wrong, may have a hard lesson when they learn how much they have to lose under an authoritarian government. The transformation from a Soviet to a federative state did not change much in real terms.
He sold out America in Helsinki. He wants the Nobel Peace Prize more than anything. How could an American president host our biggest enemy at a very strategic Air Force Base???? Putin proved to the entire world that he’s got Donnie in his pocket. What an embarrassment.
Trump’s primary objective was to get the American Press to stop talking about Jeffrey Epstein - because he know that the Media can only focus on one thing at a time. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.
For now as he holds these meetings. Even if the pause lasts a couple weeks, Massie and Khanna have plans for the Sept 3rd when Congress re-convenes. They will again be gathering signatures for their discharge petition & will bring victims of Epstein to Capitol Hills to speak.
Trump SOLD America down the road in an attempt to distract the country. Trump’s SHAMEFUL attempt to distract the country will FOREVER change our safety and security.
Disgraceful doesn't begin to describe his shameful and treasonous bending over for Putin. Just seeing his immense smile is nauseating. Contrast that with his openly disdainful glower when facing Democrats. He is a traitor. Add that to convicted felon, charity cheat, civilly adjudicated sexual assaulter, insurrection fomenter, Constitution defiler, inveterate liar, proven grifter, and now alleged and probable underage sex trafficking participant. That is some legacy and an unerasable stain on America. Nice job, conservatives. Oh, and fuck you.
I’m dismayed that no one in Congress pushed for Putin’s arrest while he was on American soil. What a total sham this administration is. Truly terrifying!
Putin has something on Trump that he is terrified of becoming public. My guess is he shared it with Trump while in the Beast. Then later, watching the faces on his team as they exited the private meeting said it all. This was all a show, and Putin owns Trump, who did his best to make "Russia great again". It was vile, and unAmerican for 249 years.
Trump sold his soul decades ago to Russia now he is just paying his yearly dues and America will suffer. We have a cancer in our govt and it’s called Trump and GOP. Both need to be cut out
Remember the pee-pee tapes? The Epstein files are going to disappear in the same way.
Yes, we've seen their propaganda play book before. My guess is all Putin did was show Trump a picture they have on their short ride in the beast. No translation needed, just a cold empty stare and Trump crumbled. No one knows, but just thinking of the possibility was helpful.
Very possible.
My thought as well, gpm.
Trump does not seem terrified. He practically drools when Putin is around.
Trump's earliest known trip to Russia was in the 1980s. I believe he was recruited at that time as an American business/culture asset for the KGB and/or FSB. Maybe Putin was his handler - so, yes, there is kompromat on Trump. But he is still a useful tool for Putin, so he won't be releasing it anytime soon.
Putin isn’t a handler. Epstein and Melania are more likely🥸
Intelligence assets are handled by staff in the agency, in this case either FSB or, more likely a KGB “America” desk officer. In some circumstances, officers in the field can provide that role for special cases, as I believe Trump must be considering his alleged wealth, neediness, and access to other rich Americans.
Absolutely on all points!
we aren’t a member of the ICC. That’s pretty telling…we’ve never accepted that the US isn’t a war criminal either.
I totally agree. Terrifying, shameful, and more.
The U.S. and Russia aren't signatories to the International Criminal Court, which is why Putin could come to Alaska without fearing arrest. Any member of Congress who "pushed for Putin's arrest" would have been either grandstanding or showing their ignorance about what authority ICC warrants have in countries that don't acknowledge them. (Corrected: First version got the ICC and the ICJ [International Court of Justice] confused. Still trying to figure out the relationship between the two. <g>)
Thanks for stating the facts. They are much needed as we try to figure out what is happening with the dictator and the wannabe dictator.
Yes!
Yes - sold out!
The whole thing makes us look weak. It was horrifying and disgusting.
The only reason Putin "has cards" is because Trump is showing him his hand and letting Putin win the game
A hand it seems like Trump wants Putin to put a "ring on"
Man crush for sure to the point of groveling and putting out the red carpet for a war criminal who has been murdering civilians and violently invaded its neighbor
Do violent dictators turn Trump on?
Remember Kim's "love letters?"
The truth is that Russia (not just Ukraine) is in dire straights from a lengthy war and all it would take would be for Trump to show some real backbone along side our NATO allies for Russia to have a whole different posture.
That is it.
I even bet if Ukraine were to actually join, Russia would find an excuse to bail.
It is the US along side our allies who "would" have all the cards - no one else.
But that would require Trump gaining a spine and not selling us down the river to make it seem like he got some sort of deal.
I guess even a superpower like the USA is only as strong as its weakest link and ours is POTUS
And just so it is clear, they should send old women like me to war - us old grannies are a lot tougher and fiercer than the likes of Hegseth or Trump with their fake bravado.
I have lived a good life and I am willing to put it on the line for future generations, all these blobs care about is $ and the GOP in congress can't even bother to risk their jobs with a vote to oppose Trump and yet they have the power to send "others" to war - What spineless cowards!
Gaza Riveria? Seriously? Are the kids going to make sand castles out of bones and see if they can hear the ocean in a skull they find on the shore? It would be like if they said they were going to turn Auschwitz into a ritzy hotel.
How can people not be sickened and repulsed by it all is beyond me.
DISGUSTING!
Trump was not there as just the POTUS, he was there for Trump, and only Trump. His time as president is all about how he can enrich himself off the presidency. It was not about peace at all. No wonder the Ukrainian president was not invited.
Disgusting!!
Excellent response Pip ! Thanks
Thanks. It came from a true place of rage and I'm not ashamed to be beyond furious about what is happening. I can't believe some can suppress it or do not realize they are complicit when they choose to do that. There is no "toning this down" no way to gloss it over with more diplomatically chosen words. Disgusting is what it is.
I remember when I first learned about the Holocaust. I went to my dear, sweet mother, and told her how sad and scared it made me. I finally asked her, "Why didn't y'all do something?"
Her answer was genuinely surprised and slightly amused: "What were WE going to do?" I was perplexed, but I didn't know an answer.
I still don't know the answer. But it does seem like we have a little more influence than my mother and her peers had. 🤔 Maybe.
I'm doing postcards, calls, signing petitions, attending protests, promoting Abigail Spanberger and other Dems in VA. Giving money to the ACLU and Amnesty International. It all feels impotent. But what else do we have? Please advise.
As Joyce Vance says, "We're in this together."
As Joyce and Ruth both seem to say, simply do whatever you can and what you are best capable of. I think they are better at advising than me and have leadership skills. Sounds like that is what you are already doing. It opens the doors for others, as well, when they see others doing what they can.
I understand completely ! I'm nuts from this whole thing..
It was all about giving Putin air time on the world stage. Helping a brother dictator out with some publicity. Nothing more. Trump is denigrating our country in the world's eyes. We're now the trailer trash of the planet. We have fallen so far, so fast, under this administration.
Of course he did. Again. The felon couldn't 'deal' a deck of cards.
The photo of these two laughing makes me ill.
Both are incredibly cruel and corrupt, and are responsible for the deaths and suffering of millions of people. They should both be in prison for their treachery and crimes against humanity.
Yes, they both are all those things. The glaring difference is that Putin is a former KGB operative, cunning, well informed, manipulative, wily. Our "president?" Shallow, greedy, obsequious, arrogant, ignorant, venal, uninformed, egotistical, extremely susceptible to flattery, and easily manipulated. WHAT COULD GO WRONG FOR US?
Agreed, but you left out "fat".
His physical defects woulda been a whole separate list. Looong list.
You forgot HOE!!! Oh…that’s short for “Head of Extortion!” Hey, you can’t fault a guy for supplementing his income…especially in these tough times! Plus…it’s far more profitable than peddling worthless trinkets!
They say a question should not be answered with a question. I will go with a question anyway. Hasn't Trump been selling out to Russia/Putin for years? Trump is anti-American, anti-constitutionalist and a fraud this entire time. When I served in USAF Intel decades ago, Russia was the enemy. That has not changed. What has changed is that we now have traitors seated in the highest offices of power. That applies to all three branches of "our" government: Executive, Legislative and Judicial.
To the American right, Russia ceased to be an enemy when it ceased being a Communist nation. They seem to have no trouble with Putin re-establishing the Soviet Union so long as it’s not Communist.
Interesting perspective. The right, often wrong, may have a hard lesson when they learn how much they have to lose under an authoritarian government. The transformation from a Soviet to a federative state did not change much in real terms.
The rich people on the right want an oligarchy.
He sold out America in Helsinki. He wants the Nobel Peace Prize more than anything. How could an American president host our biggest enemy at a very strategic Air Force Base???? Putin proved to the entire world that he’s got Donnie in his pocket. What an embarrassment.
Trump’s primary objective was to get the American Press to stop talking about Jeffrey Epstein - because he know that the Media can only focus on one thing at a time. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.
For now as he holds these meetings. Even if the pause lasts a couple weeks, Massie and Khanna have plans for the Sept 3rd when Congress re-convenes. They will again be gathering signatures for their discharge petition & will bring victims of Epstein to Capitol Hills to speak.
Anchorage - Munich
2025. 1938
Trump. Neville Chamberlain
Putin. Hitler
Ukraine. Czechoslovakia
IS there any difference? I wonder
Trump is much stupider and shallower than Chamberlin
Anchorage is oozing avarice, greed and profiteering from real estate acquisitions. Not so in the Munich Agreement.
“ NO WAR IF Trump had been president”…. Duh, ok…& THAT IS WHY❓ Because Trump would have handed PUTIN UKRAINE on the WHITE HOUSE BEST SILVER TRAY.
…uhhh … best GOLD tray!!
Your Right👑😱
In a word, yes. But he’s been doing that for the past nine years.
Trump SOLD America down the road in an attempt to distract the country. Trump’s SHAMEFUL attempt to distract the country will FOREVER change our safety and security.
Disgraceful doesn't begin to describe his shameful and treasonous bending over for Putin. Just seeing his immense smile is nauseating. Contrast that with his openly disdainful glower when facing Democrats. He is a traitor. Add that to convicted felon, charity cheat, civilly adjudicated sexual assaulter, insurrection fomenter, Constitution defiler, inveterate liar, proven grifter, and now alleged and probable underage sex trafficking participant. That is some legacy and an unerasable stain on America. Nice job, conservatives. Oh, and fuck you.
And the mule you rode in on!
Shouldn’t that be “the elephant”?
He wouldn’t know the difference.
Whenever those two get together it’s a win for Putin. Photo op.
Trump was played and America paid the bill.
After the meeting, Russia bombed Ukraine.
And right before. Russia is not looking for peace, they want Ukraine at any cost.
YES HE FUCKING DID!!!
Trump is weak. This is not new.
A weak, pathetic POS posing as a strong one, through bullying, scapegoating, lying, and braggadocio. Nothing but a sham.