My sense is that too many of the people who did vote for Harris are now withdrawing into their lives and smaller communities, either out of a sense of helplessness or exhaustion. They aren't ignorant of the horror. They just don't want to or can't bear to muster the energy to fight. I find this frustrating and, yes, angering but I have no sense of how to combat it.
We can at least express our opposition in any way possible. Please sign and encourage others to sign The People’s Articles of Impeachment Against Donald J. Trump:
As much as we'd all like to see this happen, or for cholesterol to work faster, this is seriously just a colossal waste of time. They don't care about protests, they don't care about SCOTUS ruling against them, so they surely won't care about a petition that has absolutely zero effect other than supposedly feeling good about doing something??!!
You know, we can't whine and bitch about them not following the Constitution regarding things like due process, habeas corpus, and birthright citizenship only to turn around and suggest suspending the Constitution to suit our just as illegal needs.
The Constitution gives us two ways to remove a President:
1. Impeachment by Congress
2. Removal via the 25th Amendment by his cabinet
These are the only ways that a President can get removed from office. No, citizens cannot remove a President from office.
Energy should be used in actually effective ways. Signing a petition for citizens to impeach the president is silly and will go nowhere. But hey, I guess it makes you feel like you're doing something? Talk about "owning the libs".
That’s the only interesting thing to come out of the crazy the republicans are pulling because of that post. Tizzyent showed pages of 86 46 on insta. Frankly I’m old a served food for a long time. To me, 86 means the soup is gone. :/
Understood and appreciated. MAGA and trump has control of Congress and the feckless dems will not do this. Not saying he should not be impeached, but they don't care and will not react to a petition.
All these generalizations about "voters" and "Americans" miss something important: the glaring disparity between how white people voted and how Black people (and to some extent other people of color) voted. More than 90% of Black women voted for Harris-Walz in 2024 and Biden-Harris in 2020, and this is not just because there was a woman of color on the ticket. Black people have consistently supported Democratic candidates while the Democratic Party has generally taken their support for granted and done little to earn it.
It shouldn't be hard to see why: Go back to the mid/late 1960s, when white Southern Democrats flooded into the GOP. In the decades since the GOP has become largely a white people's party. There are photos out there of the two parties' congressional delegations standing on the Capitol steps: the Republican delegation is always overwhelmingly white and the Democratic delegation looks more like the U.S.: strikingly more women and more people of color.
"Make America Great Again" means "Make America White Again." Since the Reagan administration "small government" has been code for "end DEI." Trump's base and Republicans more generally get it. Too many white liberals don't.
I take the point that the experience is different for different demographic groups. My points would be fiercer if we were only talking about cute behavior of white America.
My daughter is 39, very well educated, whip smart, and good-hearted. Yet, when I tried to get her to go with me to last month's Hands Off protest in Sacramento, she refused. "What's the point?" And therein lies the point. She knows how bad Trump is and how our country is spiraling into chaos and yet she wouldn't stand up and be counted. I also recently watched the FY pod on the Bulwark which features Gen Z guests. Asked why there were so many Boomers in the protests and not any Zoomers, one guest, a popular Tik-Tok influencer replied, "Because all we've ever known is Trump and to us it just seems normal." She added that she has switched from being a die-hard Republican to a Democrat and I'm hopeful she uses her platform to call out the regime. All of which is to say, maybe it will take the economy bottoming out, joblessness to reach all time highs, a depression, something that can be laid squarely at the regime's feet to move at least 20% of those 77 million 2024 Trump voters and at least 50% of the 89 million who didn't vote, to create a tidal wave of opposition, in the streets and at the ballot box. Poland did it. Ukraine did it. South Korea did it. France and many other democratic countries have had their share of public uprisings resulting in reforms and change. We are the oldest democracy yet now the most fragile. I agree, Steve, we must look our friends and family in the eye and say, "If not us, then who?"
My daughter also is passive. It is so difficult to comprehend. As a Boomer, I spent years being actively involved in anti-Vietnam war movement, and in Civil Rights marches. Is it related to all of the technology? are they so unused to large groups of people getting together for a shared purpose?
What you wrote, Robyn Boyer, is the issue faced with Roe/Dobbs, about which the now late Sarah Weddington and I talked about years ago on reproductive rights: generations that took those rights for granted - the only rights they had known regardless of stories told, personal and documented experiences. Reading lately showing young (Z, then next after them) men more so & more women than I’d expected are moving rightward in the US & abroad, appears to also be a threat. Our 20-something trans nephew lives abroad helping LGBTQIA refugees. He said US & other countries’ volunteers helping refugees express what to him & us, are vile nationalistic statements about those they are there to help, and greater admiration for “strongmen” than he ever expected.
What you wrote really moved me. You must be really proud of your son. Gen Z basically boycotted the 2024 election over the Palestine mess. I think many of them are waking up...and as young Z men, as the economy starts crushing them (worse than it already is), they may come around. In solidarity, Robyn.
Ignore Dr. Snyder’s words at your peril, fellow Americans. Sadly, many already ignored the words written in Project 2025.
“The notion that a radical is one who hates his country is naïve and usually idiotic. He is, more likely, one who likes his country more than the rest of us, and is thus more disturbed than the rest of us when he sees it debauched. He is not a bad citizen turning to crime; he is a good citizen driven to despair.” - H.L. Mencken
Steve, here is a simple, somewhat limited and likely very costly solution.
Produce a series of 15-second and 30-second spots illustrating the trump criminality, etc. Run them for weeks, even months, on Fox. Buy avails on right-wing podcasts, right-wing radio, and perhaps “x.”
We need to reach the brainwashed. So we need to put the truth in front of them in simple ways and on the fields that they are playing.
For those who might doubt this approach, think of the successes of Voice of America, Radio Free Europe and the BBC. Or Tylenol, Ozempic, Ford, Toyota, and beer. Effective advertising works. But you have to have a lot of it and put it where your would-be customers are watching and listening.
In Indiana, 340,000 registered Democrats did not vote in the 2024 election. While maybe some of those voters died or moved out of state, that number turning out might have shifted some Indiana races and prevented the horrors that the current state officers and legislature is inflicting on us. Efforts to educate and turn out the vote has to start at each state level. Democrats, since Obama, have not done enough at the state level, which is where people can most directly be informed and motivated.
Thank you Steven. I have been doing what you have suggested. I am discouraged with family, friends and acquaintances who are “ too busy” to be bothered to keep up with the news, let alone protest or make phone calls.
Thank you for your kind words for former President Biden.
The way the media are criticizing and bashing him is hard to take. ( watching Morning Joe now.)
Another superb article. Your work just keeps getting better and better. I'm going to share this article, too, with your blessings. "But we’re in this fateful moment because far too many Americans failed to grasp what could happen and what was at stake. And, sadly, it seems far too many still fail to recognize that there is a five-alarm fire that could soon burn out of control, making dousing it and repairing the destruction an increasingly tall order." This ignorance of what was happening for some, and the normalization of it for others, is what I have come to believe led to what became of Germany in the 1930's.
I would leave America with my family if we could afford it, even with two children preparing to start community college. This is so disheartening, and you are correct, people think things will remain as they have been, safe and secure--as long as they don't see, with their own eyes, what is happening. More homeless people should be a signal, more fights in public school with fewer counselors, weather disasters--maybe this will wake up people. I plan to cover the June 14 demonstration in my town. We'll see what happens around the country.
We all join you in wishing President Biden a speedy and complete recovery. Life isn't fair, is it? It may hang by a thread, but we must do all we can to cherish it.
With regard to the thrust of your essay, Steven, we have no choice but to take Professor Snyder's warning seriously. Here's the thing: Trump and his fascist acolytes are flouting the Constitution openly, dispensing with habeas corpus (the very foundation of our system of laws) and imposing the kind of draconian legislation that is intended to degrade healthcare, education and security while benefiting only the superrich and their accomplices abroad. And let's not forget that the regime has been in power for barely over a hundred days: they've only just begun. What comes next?
Well, one thing's for sure: the majority of us are going to feel increasing levels of pain as the weeks pass. Now in the normal course of events, the midterm elections would result in a rout of the Republican Trumpers. But these times are anything but normal. So why - on the basis of its open contempt for our laws - does anyone think that this regime is going to risk losing power by allowing fair elections to be held?
This fascist regime, as Professor Snyder points out, is likely to manufacture one disaster or another in order to declare a state of emergency and abrogate elections. The goal of the fascists is to retain power: they will do so by any means whatsoever, and that includes the imposition of martial law.
We have little choice but to engage in mass civil disobedience in numbers that are sufficient to bring this regime crashing down. If 77 million of us voted against Trump, surely there are 12 million among us who are willing to take to the streets? The writing is on the wall.
Thank you Steven for making us look in the mirror this morning. As historically tragic and emotional it is to see our Democracy crumble beneath us, facing the unthinkable is exactly where we are. Will apathy be the legacy of American Democracy? Not here, and not now, and never with me! We will find a way to join together and fight back!
(And a foot note to Jake Tapper. Yes, there is blame, and many reasons why we are here, but your claim is absurd, cowardly, ridiculous. The responsibly lays at his feet, CNN, and other media for promoting the regimes propaganda and lies; and not the truth about where we were headed. That will be their legacy!)
This has been a fascist authoritarian movement and takeover decades in the making.
Many of us left the Republican Party long before 2016 as we realized things were getting very corrupt and vicious not really caring about governing or what was good for the people of the United States of America and ordinary American citizens.
Somewhere along the line the Republican Party married,
corporate greed Christian nationalism
Fascism
White supremacy
John Birch Society
Bigotry
Racism
Misogyny
Creating a group think leading too much corruption
This perverted sense of individualism and narcissism
There were many people that have tried to sound the alarm alert and inform the public
Yourself
Jon Meacham
Madeleine Albright
Anne Applebaum
Timothy Snyder
Jason Stanley
The playbook of fascist authoritarian dictator ships was in full force and works .
Please keep doing what you’re doing
Repetition of important facts is important.
The talk about Joe Biden that has been going on sounds like Maga talking points
It has done a disservice
Why would anyone want to tear down and rip up somebody that stood up to try to stop Trump and the fascist authoritarian movement that we are now in the middle of ?
Talking about it because others have come out with books to make money.
Repeating Maga talking points the way Trump repeats Putin talking points.
He is a good man and honorable man. He has loved the United States of America and defended and protected the constitution
Fought for equality and freedom for all
Defending women and women’s right to choose
Defending the gay community and their right to be married and have their own families
Fought for civil rights and against racism
Fought for all vulnerable communities within our nation to be safe, free and treated equal.
He fought for the working man in the middle class.
He stood up for respect for the young people in this country.
He restored sanity to the White House after Trump 1.0 and the Covid disaster he created.
He restored dignity to the United States on the world stage with our NATO allies, bringing them close together, adding two new countries.
Always fighting for freedom defending our nation our Constitution are three equal branches of government and the checks and balances
Always defending our rights and freedoms.
He should be commended
Not torn down.
I do hope it all can stop so as not to put any more stress and unfairness on President Biden and his family as they undertake this latest adversity.
Our democracy is very fragile right now and it will take everybody to join together to save it .
Thank you for all your continued solid, good messages and insights
Excellent advice! We must prepare for the worst and express our opposition in any and every way we can. Please sign and help circulate The People’s Articles of Impeachment Against Donald J. Trump:
Wow! I am amazed and honored to get your supportive response Steven Beschloss! I have admired your thoughts and expertise on MSNBC for a long time. Please consider helping to promote the petition.
Did 77 million people vote ? The felon admitted that musk rigged the election, in Pennsylvania at least. Come on now, just Pennsylvania? I’m one of those kooks who believes that Kamala Harris won the election. I also don’t believe that there was an assassination attempt, in Pennsylvania. However no third gunman on the grassy knoll.
Steven you referenced The NY Times from back in 2023. Since then the legacy media has capitulated to the felon. We have to rely on independent, third party journalists for accurate reporting.
I’m sure Tapper will take advantage of the sad, breaking news about President Biden to hawk his book due out tomorrow.
Trump is a notorious liar who often (usually?) doesn't know what he's talking about. Why is it that so many people are sure he's telling the truth when he says something they agree with?
I think that so many people believe him is more upsetting than what he is saying and doing. If there wasn’t so many he wouldn’t have the power that he has.
Do people who claim that Musk or Trump or anyone else "rigged the election" have any idea how elections work in the U.S.? How decentralized they are? Each state, and each jurisdiction within that state, runs its own elections. Even "rigging the election" in only swing states would take incredible planning and skill -- which IMO neither Musk nor Trump nor any of their cohorts have exhibited.
However, in one way elections are "rigged" -- they're rigged right out in the open by SCOTUS decisions like Citizens United (taking the lid off campaign spending by corporations and the über-wealthy) and by the laws passed in so many Republican-run states that make it harder for citizens to vote. How about focusing on that instead of on fantasies about Musk and Trump?
My sense is that too many of the people who did vote for Harris are now withdrawing into their lives and smaller communities, either out of a sense of helplessness or exhaustion. They aren't ignorant of the horror. They just don't want to or can't bear to muster the energy to fight. I find this frustrating and, yes, angering but I have no sense of how to combat it.
We can at least express our opposition in any way possible. Please sign and encourage others to sign The People’s Articles of Impeachment Against Donald J. Trump:
https://chng.it/mXLxNB9nRH
As much as we'd all like to see this happen, or for cholesterol to work faster, this is seriously just a colossal waste of time. They don't care about protests, they don't care about SCOTUS ruling against them, so they surely won't care about a petition that has absolutely zero effect other than supposedly feeling good about doing something??!!
You know, we can't whine and bitch about them not following the Constitution regarding things like due process, habeas corpus, and birthright citizenship only to turn around and suggest suspending the Constitution to suit our just as illegal needs.
The Constitution gives us two ways to remove a President:
1. Impeachment by Congress
2. Removal via the 25th Amendment by his cabinet
These are the only ways that a President can get removed from office. No, citizens cannot remove a President from office.
Energy should be used in actually effective ways. Signing a petition for citizens to impeach the president is silly and will go nowhere. But hey, I guess it makes you feel like you're doing something? Talk about "owning the libs".
Saw an interesting photo on the 8647 meme going around. 8+6 + 4+7=25(th) Amendment
That’s the only interesting thing to come out of the crazy the republicans are pulling because of that post. Tizzyent showed pages of 86 46 on insta. Frankly I’m old a served food for a long time. To me, 86 means the soup is gone. :/
Please read the articles of impeachment. They urge the Congress to act.
Understood and appreciated. MAGA and trump has control of Congress and the feckless dems will not do this. Not saying he should not be impeached, but they don't care and will not react to a petition.
All these generalizations about "voters" and "Americans" miss something important: the glaring disparity between how white people voted and how Black people (and to some extent other people of color) voted. More than 90% of Black women voted for Harris-Walz in 2024 and Biden-Harris in 2020, and this is not just because there was a woman of color on the ticket. Black people have consistently supported Democratic candidates while the Democratic Party has generally taken their support for granted and done little to earn it.
It shouldn't be hard to see why: Go back to the mid/late 1960s, when white Southern Democrats flooded into the GOP. In the decades since the GOP has become largely a white people's party. There are photos out there of the two parties' congressional delegations standing on the Capitol steps: the Republican delegation is always overwhelmingly white and the Democratic delegation looks more like the U.S.: strikingly more women and more people of color.
"Make America Great Again" means "Make America White Again." Since the Reagan administration "small government" has been code for "end DEI." Trump's base and Republicans more generally get it. Too many white liberals don't.
I take the point that the experience is different for different demographic groups. My points would be fiercer if we were only talking about cute behavior of white America.
My daughter is 39, very well educated, whip smart, and good-hearted. Yet, when I tried to get her to go with me to last month's Hands Off protest in Sacramento, she refused. "What's the point?" And therein lies the point. She knows how bad Trump is and how our country is spiraling into chaos and yet she wouldn't stand up and be counted. I also recently watched the FY pod on the Bulwark which features Gen Z guests. Asked why there were so many Boomers in the protests and not any Zoomers, one guest, a popular Tik-Tok influencer replied, "Because all we've ever known is Trump and to us it just seems normal." She added that she has switched from being a die-hard Republican to a Democrat and I'm hopeful she uses her platform to call out the regime. All of which is to say, maybe it will take the economy bottoming out, joblessness to reach all time highs, a depression, something that can be laid squarely at the regime's feet to move at least 20% of those 77 million 2024 Trump voters and at least 50% of the 89 million who didn't vote, to create a tidal wave of opposition, in the streets and at the ballot box. Poland did it. Ukraine did it. South Korea did it. France and many other democratic countries have had their share of public uprisings resulting in reforms and change. We are the oldest democracy yet now the most fragile. I agree, Steve, we must look our friends and family in the eye and say, "If not us, then who?"
My daughter also is passive. It is so difficult to comprehend. As a Boomer, I spent years being actively involved in anti-Vietnam war movement, and in Civil Rights marches. Is it related to all of the technology? are they so unused to large groups of people getting together for a shared purpose?
My maga son is not so enamored these days. He won’t say so directly but he began hinting by saying he voting for some Dems. We can hope.
Maybe your daughter wants to make sure she and her likeminded friends can vote? That’s a concrete thing that some are more interested in doing.
https://www.politico.com/newsletters/women-rule/2025/04/18/what-the-save-act-means-for-women-00298305
What you wrote, Robyn Boyer, is the issue faced with Roe/Dobbs, about which the now late Sarah Weddington and I talked about years ago on reproductive rights: generations that took those rights for granted - the only rights they had known regardless of stories told, personal and documented experiences. Reading lately showing young (Z, then next after them) men more so & more women than I’d expected are moving rightward in the US & abroad, appears to also be a threat. Our 20-something trans nephew lives abroad helping LGBTQIA refugees. He said US & other countries’ volunteers helping refugees express what to him & us, are vile nationalistic statements about those they are there to help, and greater admiration for “strongmen” than he ever expected.
This is all to say: we have work to do.
What you wrote really moved me. You must be really proud of your son. Gen Z basically boycotted the 2024 election over the Palestine mess. I think many of them are waking up...and as young Z men, as the economy starts crushing them (worse than it already is), they may come around. In solidarity, Robyn.
Ignore Dr. Snyder’s words at your peril, fellow Americans. Sadly, many already ignored the words written in Project 2025.
“The notion that a radical is one who hates his country is naïve and usually idiotic. He is, more likely, one who likes his country more than the rest of us, and is thus more disturbed than the rest of us when he sees it debauched. He is not a bad citizen turning to crime; he is a good citizen driven to despair.” - H.L. Mencken
Boy, did we ever need your posting right now to avoid being lulled into complacency. Focus, focus, focus!
Yes, focus. Thanks, Ellen.
Thank YOU.
Steve, here is a simple, somewhat limited and likely very costly solution.
Produce a series of 15-second and 30-second spots illustrating the trump criminality, etc. Run them for weeks, even months, on Fox. Buy avails on right-wing podcasts, right-wing radio, and perhaps “x.”
We need to reach the brainwashed. So we need to put the truth in front of them in simple ways and on the fields that they are playing.
For those who might doubt this approach, think of the successes of Voice of America, Radio Free Europe and the BBC. Or Tylenol, Ozempic, Ford, Toyota, and beer. Effective advertising works. But you have to have a lot of it and put it where your would-be customers are watching and listening.
In Indiana, 340,000 registered Democrats did not vote in the 2024 election. While maybe some of those voters died or moved out of state, that number turning out might have shifted some Indiana races and prevented the horrors that the current state officers and legislature is inflicting on us. Efforts to educate and turn out the vote has to start at each state level. Democrats, since Obama, have not done enough at the state level, which is where people can most directly be informed and motivated.
Thank you Steven. I have been doing what you have suggested. I am discouraged with family, friends and acquaintances who are “ too busy” to be bothered to keep up with the news, let alone protest or make phone calls.
Thank you for your kind words for former President Biden.
The way the media are criticizing and bashing him is hard to take. ( watching Morning Joe now.)
Another superb article. Your work just keeps getting better and better. I'm going to share this article, too, with your blessings. "But we’re in this fateful moment because far too many Americans failed to grasp what could happen and what was at stake. And, sadly, it seems far too many still fail to recognize that there is a five-alarm fire that could soon burn out of control, making dousing it and repairing the destruction an increasingly tall order." This ignorance of what was happening for some, and the normalization of it for others, is what I have come to believe led to what became of Germany in the 1930's.
Of course you can. Thanks for the kind words.
I would leave America with my family if we could afford it, even with two children preparing to start community college. This is so disheartening, and you are correct, people think things will remain as they have been, safe and secure--as long as they don't see, with their own eyes, what is happening. More homeless people should be a signal, more fights in public school with fewer counselors, weather disasters--maybe this will wake up people. I plan to cover the June 14 demonstration in my town. We'll see what happens around the country.
Professor Snyder and his wife are moving to Canada. I think it was the New York Times that ran a story about this.
I think they are already there.
You are right, I didn't know this. https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2025/04/04/snyder-on-leaving-yale/
We all join you in wishing President Biden a speedy and complete recovery. Life isn't fair, is it? It may hang by a thread, but we must do all we can to cherish it.
With regard to the thrust of your essay, Steven, we have no choice but to take Professor Snyder's warning seriously. Here's the thing: Trump and his fascist acolytes are flouting the Constitution openly, dispensing with habeas corpus (the very foundation of our system of laws) and imposing the kind of draconian legislation that is intended to degrade healthcare, education and security while benefiting only the superrich and their accomplices abroad. And let's not forget that the regime has been in power for barely over a hundred days: they've only just begun. What comes next?
Well, one thing's for sure: the majority of us are going to feel increasing levels of pain as the weeks pass. Now in the normal course of events, the midterm elections would result in a rout of the Republican Trumpers. But these times are anything but normal. So why - on the basis of its open contempt for our laws - does anyone think that this regime is going to risk losing power by allowing fair elections to be held?
This fascist regime, as Professor Snyder points out, is likely to manufacture one disaster or another in order to declare a state of emergency and abrogate elections. The goal of the fascists is to retain power: they will do so by any means whatsoever, and that includes the imposition of martial law.
We have little choice but to engage in mass civil disobedience in numbers that are sufficient to bring this regime crashing down. If 77 million of us voted against Trump, surely there are 12 million among us who are willing to take to the streets? The writing is on the wall.
Thank you Steven for making us look in the mirror this morning. As historically tragic and emotional it is to see our Democracy crumble beneath us, facing the unthinkable is exactly where we are. Will apathy be the legacy of American Democracy? Not here, and not now, and never with me! We will find a way to join together and fight back!
(And a foot note to Jake Tapper. Yes, there is blame, and many reasons why we are here, but your claim is absurd, cowardly, ridiculous. The responsibly lays at his feet, CNN, and other media for promoting the regimes propaganda and lies; and not the truth about where we were headed. That will be their legacy!)
This has been a fascist authoritarian movement and takeover decades in the making.
Many of us left the Republican Party long before 2016 as we realized things were getting very corrupt and vicious not really caring about governing or what was good for the people of the United States of America and ordinary American citizens.
Somewhere along the line the Republican Party married,
corporate greed Christian nationalism
Fascism
White supremacy
John Birch Society
Bigotry
Racism
Misogyny
Creating a group think leading too much corruption
This perverted sense of individualism and narcissism
There were many people that have tried to sound the alarm alert and inform the public
Yourself
Jon Meacham
Madeleine Albright
Anne Applebaum
Timothy Snyder
Jason Stanley
The playbook of fascist authoritarian dictator ships was in full force and works .
Please keep doing what you’re doing
Repetition of important facts is important.
The talk about Joe Biden that has been going on sounds like Maga talking points
It has done a disservice
Why would anyone want to tear down and rip up somebody that stood up to try to stop Trump and the fascist authoritarian movement that we are now in the middle of ?
Talking about it because others have come out with books to make money.
Repeating Maga talking points the way Trump repeats Putin talking points.
He is a good man and honorable man. He has loved the United States of America and defended and protected the constitution
Fought for equality and freedom for all
Defending women and women’s right to choose
Defending the gay community and their right to be married and have their own families
Fought for civil rights and against racism
Fought for all vulnerable communities within our nation to be safe, free and treated equal.
He fought for the working man in the middle class.
He stood up for respect for the young people in this country.
He restored sanity to the White House after Trump 1.0 and the Covid disaster he created.
He restored dignity to the United States on the world stage with our NATO allies, bringing them close together, adding two new countries.
Always fighting for freedom defending our nation our Constitution are three equal branches of government and the checks and balances
Always defending our rights and freedoms.
He should be commended
Not torn down.
I do hope it all can stop so as not to put any more stress and unfairness on President Biden and his family as they undertake this latest adversity.
Our democracy is very fragile right now and it will take everybody to join together to save it .
Thank you for all your continued solid, good messages and insights
Thank you for your thoughtful remarks, Dianne.
Excellent advice! We must prepare for the worst and express our opposition in any and every way we can. Please sign and help circulate The People’s Articles of Impeachment Against Donald J. Trump:
https://chng.it/mXLxNB9nRH
Wow! I am amazed and honored to get your supportive response Steven Beschloss! I have admired your thoughts and expertise on MSNBC for a long time. Please consider helping to promote the petition.
Did 77 million people vote ? The felon admitted that musk rigged the election, in Pennsylvania at least. Come on now, just Pennsylvania? I’m one of those kooks who believes that Kamala Harris won the election. I also don’t believe that there was an assassination attempt, in Pennsylvania. However no third gunman on the grassy knoll.
Steven you referenced The NY Times from back in 2023. Since then the legacy media has capitulated to the felon. We have to rely on independent, third party journalists for accurate reporting.
I’m sure Tapper will take advantage of the sad, breaking news about President Biden to hawk his book due out tomorrow.
Trump is a notorious liar who often (usually?) doesn't know what he's talking about. Why is it that so many people are sure he's telling the truth when he says something they agree with?
It is bizarre.
Are you suggesting that musk didn’t rig the election ?
There are people, smarter than me, that say, when he says something believe him.
Please find a quote where he says Musk did this.
I think that so many people believe him is more upsetting than what he is saying and doing. If there wasn’t so many he wouldn’t have the power that he has.
That is not what he said. He said "They rigged the election, and I became President"
Some interpret “They” as Musk. I seriously doubt it.
He’s whined for a decade about DEMOCRATS rigging elections.
Do people who claim that Musk or Trump or anyone else "rigged the election" have any idea how elections work in the U.S.? How decentralized they are? Each state, and each jurisdiction within that state, runs its own elections. Even "rigging the election" in only swing states would take incredible planning and skill -- which IMO neither Musk nor Trump nor any of their cohorts have exhibited.
However, in one way elections are "rigged" -- they're rigged right out in the open by SCOTUS decisions like Citizens United (taking the lid off campaign spending by corporations and the über-wealthy) and by the laws passed in so many Republican-run states that make it harder for citizens to vote. How about focusing on that instead of on fantasies about Musk and Trump?
I often hear the words, “TRUMP SAYS…” I believe NOTHING Trump says because he lies daily. 🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗