Anyone wearing a mask no matter what else they wear IS NOT A LEGITIMATE law officer. No matter what Noem or anyone else says! No matter what, like the police, THEY ARE NOT ABOVE THE LAW.
Training used to be 22 weeks ( 5 months). Under current administration it is now 6 weeks (47/48 days). Fact - nothing else…
Doesn't apply to Renee Good's murderer, who has not only been with ICE for 13 years, but was a border patrol agent in Texas during some of its more murderous scandals (like shooting through windshields and making it look like they were being threatened...), but he's also a firearms INSTRUCTOR
Apparently soon after returning from Iraq as a machine gunner, he spent 8 yrs with Border Patrol which has different jurisdiction, purpose & authority than ICE. Until now had a worse reputation than ICE. He switched to ICE in 2015. Nice resume for wartime fights - “creating targets”, terrorism & SWAT assignments. Over the top for dealing with the general public.
“Ross said he has served as a deportation officer based in Minnesota since he joined ICE in 2015. He is assigned to fugitive operations, seeking to arrest “higher value targets” in the ICE region that includes Minneapolis, he testified last month. He said that he was also a team leader with the FBI’s Joint Terrorism Task Force.
“So I develop the targets, create a target package, surveillance, and then develop a plan to execute the arrest warrant,” he said.
Ross said that he was also a firearms instructor, an active shooter instructor, a field intelligence officer and member of the SWAT team. He said that he attended the Border Patrol’s academy in New Mexico, where he learned to speak Spanish.”
There’s more about the specialized training he completed.
There is also considerable data that he was part of the CBP group in Texas that was investigated for carrying out on migrants EXACTLY the same operation they carried out on Renee Good. Boxing them in, going in front of their cars, shooting them through the windshield.
Some in ICE, no matter the training before and/or after joining, have the potential to have one or more of the following in common.
1. Being amoral with no conscience nor any sense of right or wrong
2. A love of killing or maiming others
3. Believing that they are better than anyone else
4.Belief that rules are for weaklings and not them
These are also found in the military and police forces. Usually found in time to weed them out but, regretfully not always. However when uncovered they are dealt with as they should be.
The huge difference here is that they are masked and told repeatedly that the norms do not apply to them and they are above prosecution. This is like blood in the water to a shark.
Couple this with the folks in charge doing nothing and actively supporting this behavior and you have the ICE of today. Just like any autocrat’s secret police. Think Hitlers brownshirts, Putins KGB, Mussolini's OVRA or North Korean Kim Jong Un’s MSS. All responsible for eliminating any opposition to the leaders rule and making said rule the only one allowed. This included gaining and keeping control of the press and the media.
IF ANY OF THIS SOUNDS FAMILIAR IT SHOULD. The 2020 Heritage Foundation manifesto follows ALL of the above, The same manifesto that DGT said he knew nothing about!
We the people are in the middle of a fight of our lives to preserve our way of life, our Constitution, our very souls and combat the fascistic spread throughout our country.
I have no easy answers for you. ALL of us must recognize the horrors that face us and by opposing END THEM. Do not set out voting because you don’t care but pick a candidate that stands for America and its values. Someone that isn’t a known liar, a known opportunistic person who doesn’t really care for you but only themselves. Political polls that are from sites that are not biased in either direction.
All of us must be in this battle together and all of us must realize it will take some digging to know. This will not be easy but simply ask yourself what kind of world do you want your children, your entire family to inherent. A Democracy such as the USA or a dictatorship such as Russia or North Korea ?
THE CHOICE SHOULD BE CLEAR. THE FACT IS YOU MUST STAND AND BE COUNTED WHILE NOT COWERING AND SILENT
ICE cannot legally perform as many duties as regular law enforcement because it is NOT the agency’s job to be “law enforcement.” It could be deployed anywhere but its responsibilities are much narrower. Border Patrol has more authority ‘law enforcement’ authority and has corrupted its purpose too. It was supposed to operate near the borders, in ports & airports. “A reasonable distance” from the border became 100-120 miles and encompasses 2/3 of the US population. There was never much concern by the public about who Border Patrol shot or otherwise abused. There’s a reason Greg Bovino which is over Border Patrol & his agency is being deployed with ICE. Stephen Miller wants ICE to operate more like CPB.
Violence and cruelty administered outside the bounds of law is terrorism, pure and simple. The purveyors of this evil spectacle are misfits. They are packs of wild animals, deranged by some mental degradation, causing them to act like rabies-infected subhumans. They have huge chips on their shoulders, carrying some type of grudge that fuels their untamed rage, abuse and inhumanity. These men are not good people. They are not “men” in the real sense. They are evil monsters. They are not patriots. They are the dregs of our society culled from the bottom of a barrel that is toxic; poisonous. They are the worst of the worst coddled by an angry, violent man who is more wretched and harming than all of his pimps combined.
I'm calling them TRUMPSTAPO since he's so enamored of his "Donroe Doctrine" appellation. I am hearing that Noem is incorrect the thugs have complete immunity. I also wonder if they are literate enough to understand they don't get the $45,000 bonus until after 5 years of service, and we know how Donnie refuses to pay anyone. I was heartened to read that the head of the Texas Police Union is also upset over the Trumpstapo. He claims their terror tactics are spilling over to regular police officers and no one trusts or respects them now.
Thank you Steven: Well scripted. Yes ICE was intended to deal with the hard core criminal immigrant elements yet seemed to have morphed into Trumps personal ICE gestapo state police force . Ernst Röhm, leader of the Nazi SA,(brownshirts) got too powerful for Hitler so he had him shot and the SA was absorbed into the SS. The ICE gestapo tactics are quite similar to the SA. I understand they are entering private homes now without warrants. The general population may revolt one day.
I guess you could compare mixing ICE and BP together to SA and SS. Stephen Miller wants ICE to act more like BP. Maybe that is Greg Bovino’s assignment. There is video of them breaking the door & entering a home in Minneapolis. The man’s wife showed the paper they gave her husband. Bystanders filmed it. Not a judicial warrant. Signed by an immigration judge. An attorney filed a writ of habeas corpus. Said they grabbed a refugee.
ICE is not acting as trained law enforcement, either. When I ask people who they’d rather have stop them—local, county, state, or ICE—the answer is telling--but not surprising. Most trust local PD far more. ICE has lowered its vetting and training requirements, to further below our standards for local officers.
Earlier today I called both of my Senators and my Representative. I asked them all to defund ICE and to hold them accountable for crimes against humanity, particularly the murder of Renee Good.
They are all Democrats, so they are probably way ahead of me, but I want them to know I support them. Senators Booker and Kim always respond to my calls by email, and I also expect to hear from my Representative.
It’s easy to call them, you only need one phone number.
1 (202) 224-3121 That is the Capitol switchboard. Just ask for the name of your senator or representative, and they put you right through.
Good work, Sharon! If 100 million of us got on the phones and did the same thing, it would turn the tide. Alas. The Dem "leaders" have already said they will not hold out for a gov't. shutdown. There goes any hope of reining in ICE.
That is an issue raised in the MN lawsuit just filed the other day. It says identifying as police causes confusion in the public between federal agents & local police.
ICE = NAZI Storm trooper. And now Mr and Mrs MAGA voter they are encouraged to break into your house. Who do you think jumps on the 50 K recruitment fee for the privilege of wearing a mask, anonymity without a badge,violence without control and now even murder without sanction, and best of all a universal carry permit for a pistol and an AR15 automatic rifle? Not your most educated ,genteel, morally strong people. Do you still want to vote for a party that encourages the death of our Constitution? Just listen to the propaganda from the White House. You all bring shame on our country. Your way is not the American way. In the traditional American way, people count, people have the right of legal recourse ,people have private property ( now sanctioned invasion+/- thievery will prevail) all will come to nothing as we become isolated in the world as pariahs versus liberty. Want that? We'll go for it .Haul out some old pictures of Berlin at end of WW2 and Hiroshima and Nagasaki. They could be our big cities.Thats what happens to unbridaled Trumpian warmongering geopolitics.
Wise and heartfelt commentary, Steven. Thank you. But here's the rub: There is, heart breakingly, still a solid 30% of Americans and 84% of Republicans who think ICE is doing a good job and their actions are warranted to rid the country of the unwelcome, the others. The good news is that 54% of Americans overall, do not like ICE's Nazi tactics and want them gone from our cities. Think about that: Only a few points above half got the memo. To add to our dread, the Democrat "leaders" are cowering and have no stomach to fight, in one of the most critical battles of our lifetime. If they don't threaten to shut down the government until ICE is under control--and make good on that promise-- we will have lost all hope. The whole world is watching.
Let's just call them what they are. The regime's "Ice-stapo".
If you're going through hell, keep going.
- Winston Churchill
Anyone wearing a mask no matter what else they wear IS NOT A LEGITIMATE law officer. No matter what Noem or anyone else says! No matter what, like the police, THEY ARE NOT ABOVE THE LAW.
Training used to be 22 weeks ( 5 months). Under current administration it is now 6 weeks (47/48 days). Fact - nothing else…
Doesn't apply to Renee Good's murderer, who has not only been with ICE for 13 years, but was a border patrol agent in Texas during some of its more murderous scandals (like shooting through windshields and making it look like they were being threatened...), but he's also a firearms INSTRUCTOR
Apparently soon after returning from Iraq as a machine gunner, he spent 8 yrs with Border Patrol which has different jurisdiction, purpose & authority than ICE. Until now had a worse reputation than ICE. He switched to ICE in 2015. Nice resume for wartime fights - “creating targets”, terrorism & SWAT assignments. Over the top for dealing with the general public.
“Ross said he has served as a deportation officer based in Minnesota since he joined ICE in 2015. He is assigned to fugitive operations, seeking to arrest “higher value targets” in the ICE region that includes Minneapolis, he testified last month. He said that he was also a team leader with the FBI’s Joint Terrorism Task Force.
“So I develop the targets, create a target package, surveillance, and then develop a plan to execute the arrest warrant,” he said.
Ross said that he was also a firearms instructor, an active shooter instructor, a field intelligence officer and member of the SWAT team. He said that he attended the Border Patrol’s academy in New Mexico, where he learned to speak Spanish.”
There’s more about the specialized training he completed.
https://www.mprnews.org/story/2026/01/09/jonathan-ross-has-served-decades-in-military-and-law-enforcement
There is also considerable data that he was part of the CBP group in Texas that was investigated for carrying out on migrants EXACTLY the same operation they carried out on Renee Good. Boxing them in, going in front of their cars, shooting them through the windshield.
Some in ICE, no matter the training before and/or after joining, have the potential to have one or more of the following in common.
1. Being amoral with no conscience nor any sense of right or wrong
2. A love of killing or maiming others
3. Believing that they are better than anyone else
4.Belief that rules are for weaklings and not them
These are also found in the military and police forces. Usually found in time to weed them out but, regretfully not always. However when uncovered they are dealt with as they should be.
The huge difference here is that they are masked and told repeatedly that the norms do not apply to them and they are above prosecution. This is like blood in the water to a shark.
Couple this with the folks in charge doing nothing and actively supporting this behavior and you have the ICE of today. Just like any autocrat’s secret police. Think Hitlers brownshirts, Putins KGB, Mussolini's OVRA or North Korean Kim Jong Un’s MSS. All responsible for eliminating any opposition to the leaders rule and making said rule the only one allowed. This included gaining and keeping control of the press and the media.
IF ANY OF THIS SOUNDS FAMILIAR IT SHOULD. The 2020 Heritage Foundation manifesto follows ALL of the above, The same manifesto that DGT said he knew nothing about!
We the people are in the middle of a fight of our lives to preserve our way of life, our Constitution, our very souls and combat the fascistic spread throughout our country.
I have no easy answers for you. ALL of us must recognize the horrors that face us and by opposing END THEM. Do not set out voting because you don’t care but pick a candidate that stands for America and its values. Someone that isn’t a known liar, a known opportunistic person who doesn’t really care for you but only themselves. Political polls that are from sites that are not biased in either direction.
All of us must be in this battle together and all of us must realize it will take some digging to know. This will not be easy but simply ask yourself what kind of world do you want your children, your entire family to inherent. A Democracy such as the USA or a dictatorship such as Russia or North Korea ?
THE CHOICE SHOULD BE CLEAR. THE FACT IS YOU MUST STAND AND BE COUNTED WHILE NOT COWERING AND SILENT
Absolutely true
ICE cannot legally perform as many duties as regular law enforcement because it is NOT the agency’s job to be “law enforcement.” It could be deployed anywhere but its responsibilities are much narrower. Border Patrol has more authority ‘law enforcement’ authority and has corrupted its purpose too. It was supposed to operate near the borders, in ports & airports. “A reasonable distance” from the border became 100-120 miles and encompasses 2/3 of the US population. There was never much concern by the public about who Border Patrol shot or otherwise abused. There’s a reason Greg Bovino which is over Border Patrol & his agency is being deployed with ICE. Stephen Miller wants ICE to operate more like CPB.
A fish rots from the head. Staffing, training & actions follow suit. A reporter - a reporter very critical in writings - started the process for joining immigration enforcement & was accepted without having followed through. https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/dhs-picks-fight-reporter-exposed-184408659.html
Violence and cruelty administered outside the bounds of law is terrorism, pure and simple. The purveyors of this evil spectacle are misfits. They are packs of wild animals, deranged by some mental degradation, causing them to act like rabies-infected subhumans. They have huge chips on their shoulders, carrying some type of grudge that fuels their untamed rage, abuse and inhumanity. These men are not good people. They are not “men” in the real sense. They are evil monsters. They are not patriots. They are the dregs of our society culled from the bottom of a barrel that is toxic; poisonous. They are the worst of the worst coddled by an angry, violent man who is more wretched and harming than all of his pimps combined.
I'm calling them TRUMPSTAPO since he's so enamored of his "Donroe Doctrine" appellation. I am hearing that Noem is incorrect the thugs have complete immunity. I also wonder if they are literate enough to understand they don't get the $45,000 bonus until after 5 years of service, and we know how Donnie refuses to pay anyone. I was heartened to read that the head of the Texas Police Union is also upset over the Trumpstapo. He claims their terror tactics are spilling over to regular police officers and no one trusts or respects them now.
Amen Steven
Let's make this the turning point.
Thank you Steven: Well scripted. Yes ICE was intended to deal with the hard core criminal immigrant elements yet seemed to have morphed into Trumps personal ICE gestapo state police force . Ernst Röhm, leader of the Nazi SA,(brownshirts) got too powerful for Hitler so he had him shot and the SA was absorbed into the SS. The ICE gestapo tactics are quite similar to the SA. I understand they are entering private homes now without warrants. The general population may revolt one day.
I guess you could compare mixing ICE and BP together to SA and SS. Stephen Miller wants ICE to act more like BP. Maybe that is Greg Bovino’s assignment. There is video of them breaking the door & entering a home in Minneapolis. The man’s wife showed the paper they gave her husband. Bystanders filmed it. Not a judicial warrant. Signed by an immigration judge. An attorney filed a writ of habeas corpus. Said they grabbed a refugee.
“Video captures Minneapolis immigration arrest in a city on edge after shooting of Renee Good” https://apnews.com/article/ice-protests-shootings-minneapolis-portland-3f9db36657dda5bfebf9c240b6011ee5
Isn’t this how the Boston Massacre happened? How’d that work out, anyway?
ICE is not acting as trained law enforcement, either. When I ask people who they’d rather have stop them—local, county, state, or ICE—the answer is telling--but not surprising. Most trust local PD far more. ICE has lowered its vetting and training requirements, to further below our standards for local officers.
Earlier today I called both of my Senators and my Representative. I asked them all to defund ICE and to hold them accountable for crimes against humanity, particularly the murder of Renee Good.
They are all Democrats, so they are probably way ahead of me, but I want them to know I support them. Senators Booker and Kim always respond to my calls by email, and I also expect to hear from my Representative.
It’s easy to call them, you only need one phone number.
1 (202) 224-3121 That is the Capitol switchboard. Just ask for the name of your senator or representative, and they put you right through.
Good work, Sharon! If 100 million of us got on the phones and did the same thing, it would turn the tide. Alas. The Dem "leaders" have already said they will not hold out for a gov't. shutdown. There goes any hope of reining in ICE.
Ice is trump’s work around the Posse Comitatus Act.
WHY ARE THEY PERMITTED TO WEAR JACKETS WITH "POLICE" ON THEM. Isn't that impersonation?
That is an issue raised in the MN lawsuit just filed the other day. It says identifying as police causes confusion in the public between federal agents & local police.
It also implies that they have police powers and rights, which they don’t
Exactly!
ICE = NAZI Storm trooper. And now Mr and Mrs MAGA voter they are encouraged to break into your house. Who do you think jumps on the 50 K recruitment fee for the privilege of wearing a mask, anonymity without a badge,violence without control and now even murder without sanction, and best of all a universal carry permit for a pistol and an AR15 automatic rifle? Not your most educated ,genteel, morally strong people. Do you still want to vote for a party that encourages the death of our Constitution? Just listen to the propaganda from the White House. You all bring shame on our country. Your way is not the American way. In the traditional American way, people count, people have the right of legal recourse ,people have private property ( now sanctioned invasion+/- thievery will prevail) all will come to nothing as we become isolated in the world as pariahs versus liberty. Want that? We'll go for it .Haul out some old pictures of Berlin at end of WW2 and Hiroshima and Nagasaki. They could be our big cities.Thats what happens to unbridaled Trumpian warmongering geopolitics.
Wise and heartfelt commentary, Steven. Thank you. But here's the rub: There is, heart breakingly, still a solid 30% of Americans and 84% of Republicans who think ICE is doing a good job and their actions are warranted to rid the country of the unwelcome, the others. The good news is that 54% of Americans overall, do not like ICE's Nazi tactics and want them gone from our cities. Think about that: Only a few points above half got the memo. To add to our dread, the Democrat "leaders" are cowering and have no stomach to fight, in one of the most critical battles of our lifetime. If they don't threaten to shut down the government until ICE is under control--and make good on that promise-- we will have lost all hope. The whole world is watching.